Elliott Wave Counter Indicator...

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Very important thought/opinion Immy.

It is essential to study and "internalize" AIMS basics before integrating additional factors based on preference.
I make a point of working through Setup and 10sec pdf's every end of week, from start to finish.

It is amazing how one observe even more from these (source) documents after some market exposure the previous week and see how losers AND winners explain themselves... :))

In short, these documents explain what the markets want.... :D
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Couldn't agree more Herbert. That is what I have been doing this morning and each time there is something else that gives you that ah ha moment. Today it was EW.

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Hello Immy, Herbert and Richard,

I certainly appreciate your inputs and thoughts on additional indicators and thank you for taking the time to share. I'd been doing some 'outside' reading (as mentioned in an earlier post) and had come across the fibonacci time indicators for the first time. The examples in these books of the time fibs used the ratios (like the price retracements and expansions in the MT4 platform) so I was surprised when I saw that the time fib tool in MT4 uses the actual fibonacci numbers - 1, 3, 5, etc - instead of the ratios and was wondering why and how to interpret. And when I saw that Steve had incorporated them into his most excellent indicator I thought that maybe I could get an answer. That's all. Just asking 'why' (my mother warned me that I ask 'why' too often!). Maybe too inquisitive - but not looking to use them to target my exits or really to use them at all - just wanted to see and understand them in action I suppose... So, no worries! I am fascinated by this whole Fibbonacci and Golden Ratio concept and have even found myself counting branches and branches within branches on trees (now that they have no leaves) and am finding alot of 3's and 5's!!....

I did this extra reading because I was taking trades in the corrective phases and getting stopped out fairly often. I was trying to understand how to identify the corrections so as to stay away from them as much as possible. They were causing me much angst! :thumbdown: The upshot of it all is that I now understand them better but really to no avail as far as applying this understanding to the charts as they (the corrections) can be complex and long.... Which only reinforces what you're saying Immy, that we're not trading ungrounded waves. So, now I feel like I've come full circle so to speak, and am pretty much back where I started. :(( I find that during corrective phases when there are so many signals (I definitely understand why with the alligator sleeping and price jumping around his green line), that I'm now gunshy and miss the signal/setup where the breakout actually happens and puts you into wave 1...which I very often only see after the wave 3 has gotten underway and by that time I've 'missed' all the valid entry points. I know that AIMS is not about trading Elliott waves, it's about the signals and the setups and the AO - I'm just using the wave numbers here to explain what I mean.... Often the alligator is opening his mouth on M5, I get the dot and setup 1 on M1, my PO is taken and then he goes back to sleep again! Turns out he was just yawning! And I get taken out at my SL - which isn't big but it's just happening way too often for me to be profitable...and confident, for that matter.
I've also seen full waves occur on M1 when M5 is correcting (ie not trending) and just am confused about this... I was hoping that because you all were kind enough to take time to comment if you could possibly take some time again to tell me your thoughts on this...and hopefully shed some light for me.

I think the AIMS system is awesome and know that it works - but there is something that I'm missing and even after re-reading the AIMS ebook several times I'm not finding it - and it's probably staring me right in the face.

A very long request for help and any input from fellow AIMSters would be appreciated.
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petitbout wrote:Hello Immy, Herbert and Richard,

I certainly appreciate your inputs and thoughts on additional indicators and thank you for taking the time to share. I'd been doing some 'outside' reading (as mentioned in an earlier post) and had come across the fibonacci time indicators for the first time. The examples in these books of the time fibs used the ratios (like the price retracements and expansions in the MT4 platform) so I was surprised when I saw that the time fib tool in MT4 uses the actual fibonacci numbers - 1, 3, 5, etc - instead of the ratios and was wondering why and how to interpret. And when I saw that Steve had incorporated them into his most excellent indicator I thought that maybe I could get an answer. That's all. Just asking 'why' (my mother warned me that I ask 'why' too often!). Maybe too inquisitive - but not looking to use them to target my exits or really to use them at all - just wanted to see and understand them in action I suppose... So, no worries! I am fascinated by this whole Fibbonacci and Golden Ratio concept and have even found myself counting branches and branches within branches on trees (now that they have no leaves) and am finding alot of 3's and 5's!!....

I did this extra reading because I was taking trades in the corrective phases and getting stopped out fairly often. I was trying to understand how to identify the corrections so as to stay away from them as much as possible. They were causing me much angst! :thumbdown: The upshot of it all is that I now understand them better but really to no avail as far as applying this understanding to the charts as they (the corrections) can be complex and long.... Which only reinforces what you're saying Immy, that we're not trading ungrounded waves. So, now I feel like I've come full circle so to speak, and am pretty much back where I started. :(( I find that during corrective phases when there are so many signals (I definitely understand why with the alligator sleeping and price jumping around his green line), that I'm now gunshy and miss the signal/setup where the breakout actually happens and puts you into wave 1...which I very often only see after the wave 3 has gotten underway and by that time I've 'missed' all the valid entry points. I know that AIMS is not about trading Elliott waves, it's about the signals and the setups and the AO - I'm just using the wave numbers here to explain what I mean.... Often the alligator is opening his mouth on M5, I get the dot and setup 1 on M1, my PO is taken and then he goes back to sleep again! Turns out he was just yawning! And I get taken out at my SL - which isn't big but it's just happening way too often for me to be profitable...and confident, for that matter.
I've also seen full waves occur on M1 when M5 is correcting (ie not trending) and just am confused about this... I was hoping that because you all were kind enough to take time to comment if you could possibly take some time again to tell me your thoughts on this...and hopefully shed some light for me.

I think the AIMS system is awesome and know that it works - but there is something that I'm missing and even after re-reading the AIMS ebook several times I'm not finding it - and it's probably staring me right in the face.

A very long request for help and any input from fellow AIMSters would be appreciated.
Hi B

Well there is a long reply and a short one. I'll give you the short one, as I think the eBook and the whole stuff in the forum is the long one. the short is this. Join us in the Skype room and we will go through many things together.

Moreover, know it that although we dont trade EWaves we recommend that you attempt to understand this structure. If you don't understand it even after trying then leave it and focus on the setups alone. There is one good point though. When the Alligator on M5 is sleeping dont take trades on m1 unless a setup on m1 has a Double AIMS level. Also during that breakout there are more chances of getting whipsawed so use smaller lot sizes. If emotions is the main issue here, then you must trade on demo and be very very successfull on demo before you move into live trading. MAke sure you trade in the direction of hte higher time frames. e.g. wait for market to go in one direction atleast per session. e.g. the makret may go long during LO and decide to go short during NYO thats fine. But if you find yourself going long and short more than twice then you may be trading into chop and killing your account.

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Thank you for your reply and thoughts Immy.

Your advice about leaving the waves behind for a bit and concentrating on the setups alone is exactly what I'm doing. And I'm experiencing the same whipsaws as I did before I started doing all my reading!!! I understand the waves and see them perfectly in the books (because they've picked out the best examples and are doing all the hard work for you in defining the waves). My problem is that I get a bit cross-eyed when I look at a live chart and that's where the at-sea feeling comes in. So... I'd be delighted to join you on Skype - I think that that would be of infinite help! What must I do in order to join you?

Your input about the market probably only going one way per session is excellent! I shall keep that in mind next week. Are you saying tho' that there is really only one good move per session or that the session might have multiple moves in the same direction and that I should wait for the first move to complete before getting in on the possible second one - seeing the market go through a complete 5-wave sequence and then waiting for the next one?

I am still trading demo - thank God! and am embarrassed to say how much I've lost since starting :-s and thoroughly agree with you that I have to get it completely right here before 'playing with the big boys' in the 'real' world!

And as for trading in the direction of the higher TF - is this an open alligator on M5 or the purple line on M1? I find that trading away from the purple line on M1 often goes against me as I've already described and also, the waiting for the M5 alligator to wake up is tough too because of the yawning I mentioned.....Or not getting into the first wave on M5 and going in on the third? (This one sounds plausible - might help through the yawning stage and you'd definitely know the trend direction :-? ). Or is it a combination or something else that I'm missing?

Thanks Immy and please let me know what I need to do in order to join you on Skype. I really look forward to it!
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