AIMS The Hunt - The Science of Fractal Geometric Trading

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AIMS The Hunt - The Science of Fractal Geometric Trading

Introduction

AIMS Stress Free Trading has been a great journey. Together with AIMSters we have used the following strategies over the years.

We started with AIMS Stress Free Trading - The Setup
We traded it for a very good period of time. And we kept learning and refining our technique.

We learned that Setup 1 and Setup 2 has a fractal geometric sister setup on Higher Time Frames.
So we added and excelled towards the fractal geometric sister setup of "The Setup" we called it
AIMS The Seed. [Link to AIMS The Seed Original Topic]

While trading Setup 1 and Seeds we kept learning that there are spots where the market turns around. We started to notice those patterns
and started testing the ideas. This was supposed to be the next "turning point" for our trading methods.

So we went ahead and started trading higher probability reversals.
We learned that trends end at a certain time-space and we know how to spot it.

Next it was time we created a method to benefit from this pattern. Hence we crafted another "clever" strategy.
This strategy has been my personal favorite. However, its the one that is the hardest to master. Not everyone is
made for reversals. So some like it others don't. For us, its been a great strategy to trade Forex, Stocks and Commodities
on the Daily and Weekly time frames.

Before A trend starts, price is often stuck within some "shite" of sideways,zigzag, "chaotic" period. Nothing seems to make sense.
Then it forms a tight range. Its as if there were seeds inside the pot of clay and compost. Inside its dirt and dark. But within the "mud" and "dirt" of Sideways and Range bound periods, there is a SEED "a very small microcosm" of a tree/plant, can start to grow under the right conditions.
That little object may seem small but it has "potential" energy that would soon become larger than itself many many times over.
That is the definition of Chaos Theory. The Sum total of output is far more than the sum total of input. 2+2=4 or 40 or 4 million.

The Seed soon breaks ground and starts to grow. That is where we trade the Setup 1 "breakout". When it starts to grow it goes through periods of sporadic growth and then some consolidation period.

Did you know even human/children growth patterns are wave like. I've been monitoring my children's heights/growth and I have evidence that for a period of time they don't grow or grow at a very small pace and then there is this one or two months where they would put a centimeter or more of growth. The whole universe seems to be in WAVE function. There are periods of power and period of consolidation. During consolidation, its time to accumulate energy to be used during the growth periods.

Now because the markets are waves within waves within waves, We can see periods of consolidation on one time frame, yet, its within periods of growth within a higher time frame. Which is why we see SEEDS within the growth period.

We Learned that The HIGHEST probability Breakouts happen during TRENDS.

Eventually, the plant grows and its time for it stop or end its journey. It runs out of energy. It reaches its limits, in away its done its "thing" and now
it wants to reverse the process. We called this pattern, this reversal pattern AIMS The Fruit. Because when a plan blossoms and then creates its
fruit its purpose has been achieved.

The Ripen FRUIT WILL DROP and hit the ground.

The Fruit, Seed and The Setup taught us some valuable lessons. There were good and bad times and market kept changing while we kept
adapting.

Cutting the long story short, we then came up with an idea to strip our charts off everything else and something unique was born AIMS The Hunt.

We stripped the chart because we learned that THE SETUP and The Fruit could be traded in a different way.

That is when AIMS The Hunt was created.

The HUNT strategy is the final advanced and coherent fusion of AIMS Stress Free Trading Strategies.

The Hunt is an elegant creation based on The Science of Fractal Geometry.

This Strategy is predominantly a trend following strategy but also with a mechanism to pick the highest probability spots where
some waves turn around.

• Yes its more powerful than ever before!
  Yes its extremely simplified and mostly automated!!
  Yes its a Set and Forget strategy!!!
  Yes its for all time frames and markets!!!!
  Yes its indicators automatically adjust to every time frame!!!!

AIMS The Hunt has 3 Stages. In Stage 1 you work on your discipline using the bare minimum indicators on your chart. One of the
requirements of Stage 1 is to creating a written trading plan and apply the T20 Principle.

Stage 2 is created as a result of the review and end of Stage 1. Also, you now chose to add two more entry methods.

Stage 3 then is the pinnacle where you have a fair idea of what type of trader are you and what type of entries and trade management
works best for you.

You are with the Skype group during the entire process. A VERY IMPORTANT aspect of The Hunt is being part of Skype group.

AIMS The Hunt has 4 entry methods which covers all the strategies. We have picked The Highest Probability Trading Setups and
Combined it to form our Ultimate Strategy AIMS The HUNT

What is the Hunt Strategy and The Hunt Setup:

The Hunt Setup is Based on a certain pattern created on AISM The WAVE oscillato. Its the pattern a " Peak and Pullback".

Hunt is a Trend Flowing System. Hunt takes advantage of breakouts and pullbacks and gives entry signals in the direction of
Current and Five Times Higher Time frame.

AIMS The Hunt makes use of Setup 1, Apples, Cherries and Seeds entry mechanisms.

“Higher Probability Setups are Breakouts in the Direction of Higher Time Frame Trends”.

This is the foundation stone of AIMS Trading concepts. You will trade in the direction of current and five times higher time frame trend.

What is Hunt Trading Setup?

The setup is created using Grants Flow chart which is a very objective way of identifying the Setup that is ideal for Seeds and
Cherries Entries.

The HUNT Setup: is created by a pattern of 100-140 Candles/Bars on AIMS Wave or eWave, within that pattern we look for entry signals.

Look for Structure on Current and Higher Time Frame then look for Entry Setup and Entry Signals on Current Time Frame.
The Structure of current and higher time frame should both point in the same direction.

It might appear to many that The Hunt may be a different strategy but the fact remains, its really not something new.
Its basically the addition of two more entry signals. And its based on Fractal Geometric Correctness or connection of the patterns.

Explanation of Seed and Cherry Signals

A seed is a consolidation pattern created by a single candle. Underneath the seed you may find a tight range bound market on 1 or 2 significant lower time frames.

A cherry is a reversal pattern created by a single candle. A cherry is based on the fruit concept but in the direction of the trend on the
current and 5 x higher time frame.

A Cherry is used as a mechanism to trade the peak of a corrective wave. A method to make entries on the top of retracements within
trending markets.

A Seed is used as a mechanism to trade breakout of a consolidation with a trending market.

An Apple is a mechanism to pick the end of Wave 4 and get into wave 5 right at the start of it that is the end of wave 4. The end of
one trend is the start of another.

A seed on M5 Dax is often a Setup 1 on M1.


These two entries are in line with eWave and Grants Flowchart. [Link to Grants Flow Chart and Explanation] They are based on corrective wave of a lower time frame
within the current impulse wave. The flat pancake type wave 4’s turn into Setup 1 and Seeds and the zig zag pullbacks turn into
Cherries and Apples.

Wave 4 that has nice clean abc will often create a cherry on CTF And an apple of LTF.

There is great fractal geometry in these entry signals and setups.

A SEED on M5 is a Setup 1 on M1.
A Setup 1 on M1 is a Seed on M5

Explanation: If you identify a Setup 1 on M1, look at m5 and you’ll find a pattern on eWave and possibly a seed candle that would be
ideal to trade as a Seed setup on m5 on its own. But we won’t trade it as we want to remain concentrated in one time frame only for
entries.

A CHERRY on M5 is an Apple on M1.
An Apple on M1 is a Cherry on M5.

Explanation: If you identify an apple setup on m1, look at m5 and you’ll find a pattern on eWave and possibly a cherry candle that would be ideal to trade as a cherry setup on m5 on its own. But we won’t trade it as we want to remain concentrated in one time frame only for entries.


The objective of the Hunt Signals both the Seed and The Cherry is
1. Trade Wave 5 within Wave 3 or Wave 5 of Current Time Frame starting within the Dark Bars on eWave (which would mean, starting off the Wave 4 of the 5XLTF)
2. Working towards Target Zone 1 because Wave 5 ends between TZ1 and TZ2 (Fib Expansion)
3. Trade within Open Gator on Current Time Frame.

The objective of Classic Breakout and Apple is
1. Trade Wave 5 of The Current Time Frame starting from Wave 4 of the Current Time Frame.
2. Work Towards Target Zone 1 of the Current Time Frame.


Here are the 4 Entry Methods we have for AIMS The Hunt.

1. AIMS The Setup - Setup 1/2 [Stage 1]
2. AIMS The Hunt - The Seed [Stage 2]
3. AIMS The Hunt - The Cherry [Stage 2]
4. AIMS The Fruit - The Apple [Optional Stage 3]

The following video should cover the Concept of
"The Fractal Geometric Science of AIMS The Hunt Trading Strategy"

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The Fractal Geometry of AIMS The Hunt Setup and Entry Signals

The Cherry on Current Time Frame (CTF) = Apple Setup on 5XLTF (5 times lower time frame)
e.g. a Cherry on H1 would be an Apple Signal or just The Apple Setup on the M15 time frame.

The Seed on Current Time Frame (CTF) = Setup 1/2 [Classic Breakout] on 5XLTF so
e.g. a Seed (a hunt qualified inside bar) on H1, the hourly time frame, would be a Setup 1 [or classic breakout setup] on 5XLTF (5 times lower time frme)

An Apple on CTF = A Cherry on 5XHTF (5 times higher time frame)
e.g. an apple signal with correct apple setup would be a Cherry Setup and Signal on 5XHTF

A Setup 1 or Classic Breakout Setup on CTF = A Seed on 5xHTF
e.g. a good qualified setup 1 or classic breakout on m15 would be a possible Seed signal on h1 or at least a setup where we look for The Seed signal.


How will I find my Entry Setup?

• 1. Wait for price to breakout of Channel
  2. Wait for New Peak on eWave
  3. Wait for Dark Bar on Ewave
  4. For those with ATM 2.0 Click on Auto or Wait for signal and Click Buy/Sell Bar after there is a signal.

The Original Grant's Flow Chart

How to Validate an AIMS The Hunt Entry Signal?.
In order to validate a signal we apply Grants 4 Rules Flow Chart.

Rule 1: Is there a new higher/lower peak on eWave?

Explanation: This ensures that there is an impulse wave that breaks out of a tight range. If Gator is sleeping and price is inside box, price breaks out and then retests the range. That’s where you’d see eWave cross of ZL and create a small peak. The monarchs happen here.
This rule is not encoded into the entry signal indicators. You will have to use the Mark I Eyeball Indicator to validate this rule.

Rule 2: Are there dark bars on eWave?

Explanation: The signal must be created within the darker bars on eWave. This shows there is a correction after an impulse. This is often near the fresh cross of ZL on eWave creating the monarch setup. The best signals are bounce of green line, red line, and/or bounce of previous Box Level that it broke recently. It may bounce off other important S/R levels.
This rule is encoded into the entry signal indicators.

Rule 3. Is the seed on the correct side of purple and gator?

Explanation: The Seed/Cherry must be close to gators with an open mouth, the green and red line must be separated, and the Seed/Cherry must not be above it for shorts and below it for longs. Seed/Cherryare only taken when going away from purple line.

This rule is encoded into the entry signal indicators.

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AIMS Gator, Grant Version, has three lines, the green, the red and the purple. Gator is Open to Upside when Green is above red, red is above purple. and it's open to downside when green is below red and red is below purple.

Rule 4. Is the seed within the limit of 10 pips (for M1 and within the limit of 1 or 1.5ATR for all other time frames) ?

Explanation: This rules ensures that we take hunt signals that provide the highest potential for higher Risk Reward. The smaller the seed the more potential profit. There is a higher probability of price hitting a 20 pip target than there is to hit 40 pips. Agreed. This rule is encoded into the entry signal indicators.

What are the Rules that will Filter a VALID Signal?

Rules that Filter Valid Trading Signals

We will only look for Signals if the following rules have been satisfied.

Filter Rule 1: Is Target Zone 1 already hit? If yes, you may filter the trade.

If Target Zone 1 has been hit then chances are wave 5 has happened. Wave 5 means there will be either a larger degree correction, a larger abc, i.e a wave 4, or a complete reversal. Now we don’t know what will happen but the odds are not in our favour so we better not trade.

Filter Rule 2: Is Target Zone too close. ie. is it less than 2:1 , If yes, no trade.

If TZ1 has not been reached yet but it's so close to entry signal that it won’t reach at least a 2:1 profit then it's not worth it.
The following filter is optional. The above two are enough.

Filter Rule X: Is there divergence on eWave or Wave5? If yes, you may filter the signal.

If there is divergence before cross of zero line and if there is wave 5 indicated by eWave then chances are the wave might either pullback or reverse. Best to stay safe.

What is the role of Elliott Wave in my trading?

We can utilise this great, tried and tested and very reliable indicator to our advantage.
This indicator is not our entry technique.

However it's a great mechanism to boost confidence about our trading setup and the subsequent trading signals.

When there is a trading signal that is also inline with this analysis, we will be more confident in taking the trade.

In Trading Chaos page 185, there is a question.

“Where are we and what are the potentials of Elliott Wave, on both the current time frame and one significantly higher time frame?”

Hence,
Entries are taken when the market is clearly moving and in line with eWave on both time frames.

We want to Trade Hunt Signals within Wave 3 and Wave 5 of Current Time Frames

The HUNT Exit Strategy

The Exit Strategies will depend on the Stages.

Hunt Stage 1: Exit Strategy
Since the objective of Stage 1 is Discipline we will make sure we automate our exits to make sure we don't mess up our trades.
Exits will be mechanical and predefined. In stage 1 you will utilize 2:1 exit strategy until end of Stage 1 or even Stage 2.

1. Entry: Put SL on the other side of the signal bar.
2. Risk: 1% per trade
3. Move SL to BE at 1:1 and
4. Exit at 2R (2%)

Exits will be based on TZ1 because we trade into Target Zone 1.

Keep Working Towards Target Zone 1

[immy]

The Hunt Strategy is now The Ultimate AIMS Strategy.

The Hunt Strategy is our Ultimate Best Strategy. But it took us a long time to arrive at this stage. Which is why we won't expect everyone to be able to master it within a month or two. Hence a new trader a beginner to trading or new to AIMS trading ideally should go through 2 stages to get to the final Stage 3. Stage 1 and 2 should take 3 months each depending on your ability to excel to the next stage. BE HONEST to yourself.
So when finally you'll enter Stage 3 you'll have entered a life long game. Something to enjoy for the rest of your life. You will be profitable and you will looking to trust yourself, have fun while trading, be relaxed and at times very excited about trading. Intuition will start to play its part at the later stages of stage 3.

The Hunt Entry Signals
We have 4 Entry Methods as discussed in the previous post and in the video above. but You will restrict yourself to ` entry method in stage 1

However, The Seed and The Cherry depend on your understanding of Setup 1, i.e. the setup created with the help of AIMS Gator, AIMS Wave and AIMS The Box indicators.

The best way to learn to trade with Gator, AO and The Box is to trade AIMS The Setup Strategy. You need to understand The Fractal Geometric Science of Trading and Trading The Setup 1/2 will help with that. [again video above will help]

The 3 Stages of The Hunt - Your Journey of becoming The TRADER you always wanted to be starts here.

Stage 1: (New Edition)

Duration: 3 Months Challenge

Time Frame:

Option One. Trade The Hourly Time Frame (H1)

Pairs for H1:
EUR/USD
GBP/USD
USD/JPY
USD/CAD
AUD/USD
USD/CHF
NZD/USD
[NOTE 4 OF THE ABOVE SHOULD BE ENOUGH]

Option 2:

If trading part time then you may want to either trade

Option 2A: The DAX on M5/M1 [Just like The Setup Ebook suggests trading EUR/USD on m5/m1 we now trade DAX30 instead of EUR/USD due to its low spread and high volatility) or

Option 2B: If you can't trade DAX30 then you may chose any 3 of the the major currency pairs but trade them on the time frame M15 and H1 as per the book The Setup.

Pairs for M15/H1
Choose 3 from above list given for H1 e.g. as below
EUR/USD GBP/USD USD/JPY OR
EUR/USD USD/JPY AUD/USD OR NZD/USD

Ask in Skype if you're not sure. (or reply to this thread)


Main Objective for Stage 1

Trade 5 Batches of T20's using AIMS The Setup.

1. Achieve at least 90% of Trading Discipline Score (Based on T20 Principle) per batch of 20 Trades.
2. Achieve at least 80% of average DS for 5 batches of T20.

What is NOT the objective of Stage 1
1. Profit or Loss does not matter. Your objective in stage 1 is DS of 90%. (Discipline Score. you want to hit 18/20 score for each batch)
2. Account Growth does not matter. Whether it goes up or down, is NOT the objective.


Once you've completed your 5 T20 Batches and you are happy with your score, you can excel towards Stage 2.

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Stage 2:

Requirements for Stage 2:

1. You have achieved an average score of 80% for all 5 Batches of T20 and/or the time period of the past 3 Months.
2. You understand the concept of Setup 1 and have traded it successfully.
3. 4. You understand you can get into Wave 5 using the correct Setup 1.


Objective of Stage 2:
1. Introduce The HUNT Entry Methods
Now you will trade AIMS the Hunt Seed and AIMS The Hunt Cherry Entry Signals.

Goal: You need to Understand the difference between AIMS the Hunt Setup and AIMS the Hunt Entry Signals.

Objective of Stage 2: Complete another 5 Batches of T20 and Trade for 3 Months.

What is the Difference between The 4 Types of Entry Methods?

The following images show the difference between the two types of entry setups.

The Hunt Seed and Cherry Signals: The Objective of the Hunt Signals is to Catch entries within open gator on current time frame

The Hunt Signals Objective.png

Apple and Breakout Setup: The objective of Breakout Setup 1 and Apple is to catch entries into next wave on the current time frame

The Stage 2 Signals Objective.png

Stage 3:

If you are up for it and feel that you are ready to complicate things a bit further, you can now start trading in our own style. You also have the option of adding The Apple Entry Method. Apple requires understanding of the Wave and The Fruit Setup. AIMS The Setup Breakouts and/or Apple Entries work hand in hand.

But to do this, you should read and revisit the The Setup and The Fruit Method to get to grips with it. I don't think you'll need this addition because you will be pretty profitable using The Hunt signals already. But everyone is different. I certainly like to take some apple and some classic breakout entries along with the cherry and seeds. My objective is to catch a decent higher probability entry within a good setup. If I achieve my profit objective using any of the entries, i'm done.

Detail Information about Stage 3 is in the next post after the post below. Keep Reading.

[immy]

Two Important Questions
What are the Questions we should be asking while trading A Valid Setup and a Valid Signal?

Question 1:
What Wave is it on the Current Time Frame and what wave is it on the Next Higher Time Frame. or
Is The Trading Signal Fractal Geometrically Synchronized?

(1 level up) So e.g. if you're looking at M15 the next significant higher time frame would be ideally 5 times higher but we have H1 available on MT4 so we shall use the hourly time frame.
So for H1 you'll check H4,
and so likewise H4 to D1 and from D1 to Weekly

Question 2:
Where is Price Going:
What are the levels to left. Where are the levels where AIMS box high turned into an AIMS box Low on a retest or reversal. The more price touches a level the more box levels will correspond to it above and below that level. But remember its not a specific price rather its more like a zone.
What are the levels near Current Price, and What are the levels that price might travel towards and possible stop or reverse at. So if there is a significant level to close to current price it might create trouble but if that level is away from current price and entry level then that might serve as a target area.

The Following Graphic tries to explain the Difference between Trading A signal or Trading A Signal within the Correct Setup. Meaning a Fractal Geometrically Correct Setup

The Hunt Setup vs The Hunt Signals.png

[immy]

At the end of June 2016, We have begun The Final Stage of AIMS The Hunt Strategy which we call Stage 3.
We have now created a proper Amalgamation of all the AIMS Strategies.

AIMS The Hunt Stage 3: Mixes 3 Strategies, and they Collapse into ONE. AIMS The Hunt - Stage 3.

So what do we do. Lets discuss Entries and Exits and Why we have chosen those entry methods.

AIMS "The Setup" [Setup 1/2] is our Prime Strategy. The idea behind the Setup is that

Higher Probability Setups are Breakouts in the Direction of Higher Time Frame Trends.

This is the main concept behind it.

The Fruit, strategy is phenomenally successful method we learned from Dr. Will BillAIMS. ? We learned that there are times when markets go too far too fast away from the averages then there is a higher probability of prices to snap back. But the market always leaves clues before it does something [well, not always but almost always].

We benefit from such clues we Call The Fruit Setup and The Fruit Signal.

The Seed is The Setup with a twist. A fractal geometric jigsaw puzzle.

Setup 1 on Current Time Frame = An Inside Bar on HTF.

One night when all the stars lined up and created a synergistic environment I figured out that All Good Setup 1's tend to collapse into a single bar formation on a significant higher time frame. A well known BAR or Candle Pattern known as the Inside Bar.

We learned that if you chose Small Inside Bars within Open gator on a certain time frame, it is tantamount to trading the perfect Setup one breakouts into the Next Wave 5 on a significant lower time frame. That's it.

This method allows you to take risk based on average Stop Losses for a smaller time frame, say the five minute time frame but take much more bigger multiple of profits based on the average profits of a significant higher time frame say the hourly chart. We knew that now we can take trades with Risk as small as M5 time frame yet continue to allow the trade to run and grab profits suitable the hourly time frame.

Experience of a half a decade translates into a Single Page:
So, we traded all of those strategies, individually for a number of years. And we learned which of the trade setups among these strategies provided the Highest Probability of signals.

Following are the Setups from the three strategies we have picked and put together into AIMS The Hunt ... The Hunt for THE BEST ...

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Before you understand the below I hope you have read what we mean by the Fractal Geometry of these setups in post one.

crème de la crème Def: The person who is most outstanding or excellent; someone who tops all others... in this case A Setup that is most outstanding, excellent, a setup that tops all others...

Below is the list of The Highest Probability Entry Setup and Entry Signals we have Isolated from our 3 Trading Strategy to create a Single Master Strategy. THE HUNT.

What have we taken from The Setup Strategy
We Picked The Highest Probability Classic Breakouts that are in line with 5XHTF Trend with a clear Wave 3, a tight Wave 4 (making the risk lower) and clear profit objective using TZ1 technology. As a double confirmation we will use The Fractal Geometric Methodwhat we call the Moty Setup. We want a Setup 1 on CTF to be preferably a VAlid Hunt Seed on 5XTF or at least happen within a Monarch Pattern on 5XHTF. Its a fractal geometric mastication. Instead of taking all the Setup 1 breakouts we will only take breakouts into a Wave 5. We want to see a 3, wait for wave 4, then make sure the next 5 is inline with 5XHTF and bang bang. We would preferably want our Setup 1 breakout on CTF to be within the first dark bars near fresh cross of ZL, i.e. Monarch Pattern on the 5XHTF.
And we took the Purple. The evergreen purple that keeps us in line with 5XHTF Trend. It specially useful for Apples explained below.

What have we taken from The Fruit Strategy
We picked two things.
1. We will trade the Apples as we know they are "short term trend reversals in the direction of HTF Trends". Again in line with the main AIMS Terminology. An Apple on Current time frame is a Cherry on a higher time frame. So A Cherry Signal or within The Hunt Setup, e.g. The Monarch pattern on AO of 5XHTF is a great way to get in at the end of Wave 4 and catch the next 5. [And when the trend is strong it may often turn into a new 3.]
2. We also picked another apple we call the Cherry, which is an Apple of the 5XLTF. Like the apple, the cherry is an Apple Setup on 5XLTF.

From The Seed Strategy
We picked the seeds that appear within an open gator on CTF and preferably within the 5XHTF as well. Not only do we trade in line with Current time frame trend but also in line with significant higher time frame trend.

So if you're on H1, your Seed will be a clear and beautiful Classic Setup one on a the the four hourly time frame H4. The Seed strategy offers the HIGHEST Risk Reward Ratio Setups. But The Hunt SEEDS are Qualified Seeds. The Elegant Q1, Is there a new peak? and then Is there pullback and darker tone on eWave/AO? ... when you look at these formation on 5X LTF its often a Wave 3 and wave 4 classic breakout on 5XLTF.

So this makes AIMS The Hunt a unique Strategy that is a result of nearly a 4 decades of work.

What are The Best Time Frames for Intra-Day Trading?

If you only have an hour or two at hand to trade you have two options.
1. The first option is to trade using the Daily Time Frame. You will only require about 15 min per day to be able to follow over two dozens of markets. 2. If you can trade during the first 2 hrs of London or US Equities open, then you can trade on a short/fast time frame. WE trade the DAX30 on M5/M1 combination. We chose DAX because you need a very heavily traded and volatile instrument for such a small time frame. If there are not enough ticks per minute, that market is not suitable for the lower time frames.

If you can check charts through out the day [lets suppose during the Europe or Europe/US Session, US session, or US/Asian Session ] then you can find some real value in this strategy. Because you will be trading the "middle time frames". The hourly and four hourly charts sit nicely between the faster time frames and slower time frames. f you trade the "middle" time frames such as H1 or H4 you have the luxury of Time and the ability to zoom in and out. This means you can further qualify your trades by applying the Elliott wave analysis to your Current Time Frame, Significant higher or lower time frame.

How to Qualify Setups Using Elliott Wave?
So the best Setup would be when you catch wave 5 within the following combination

1. Catch A Hunt Signal i.e. Seed or Cherry Signal within Wave 3 or Wave 5 of Current Time Frame
Now within this if your Hunt Signal is within Wave 3 on current and the significant higher time frame then that is the highest probability Hunt Signal.
Likewise if you see a Hunt Signal, Within a Hunt Setup on the Current Time Frame and its in line with Wave 5 on a higher time frame, that also is a higher probability setup. Sometimes you might even catch some Hunt signals that are in line with a C wave on the 5xHTF. More on this in skype.

2. Catch An Apple and/or Setup 1 into Wave 5 of Current Time Frame.
Now within this formation if your Setup 1/2 Breakout or The Apple Signal happens to be within the Wave 3 or Wave 5 of Higher time frame, then that is a higher probability setup.

How to Check if your Entry Signal is Fractal Geometrically Correct?
AIMS the Hunt Trading Setups are Fractal Geometrically Correct. This concept can be better understood if we make a distinction between Entry Setup and Entry Signal. The following image attempts to explain this concept.


So, a Trade signal is fractal geometrically correct if
1. It appears within Hunt Setup on Current and Higher Time frame.
So if there is a Cherry signal on current time frame, you go ahead and qualify it if its within the correct Setup on current time frame.
2. It appears within Hunt Setup on 5xHTF as well.
So after checking the CTF you can then further check if the setup on current time is also within a correct setup on the 5xHTF.

If the above 2 conditions are met, the Entry Signal is Fractal Geometrically Correct. It fits within the Wave or the Wave of the wave. Its a setup within a setup within a setup. [It took me a long time to find a way to articulate this concept and I'm still not sure if I've done it successfully. Fingers Crossed.]

Example: so suppose you see an Apple on H1. and you want to qualify it, (making a bit complicated but its worth it for some who like to do it this way) go to H4 and see if the chart is creating The Hunt Setup which is whether there is a a new peak and then the darker tones on the eWave / AO of the higher time frame. Would you be willing to take a Hunt Signal, i.e. Seed/Cherry Signal on that significant higher time frame? If the answer is yes, then the Setup on the Current Time is Fractal Geometrically Correct. So there is an apple on H1 GU 7/7/16 14.00. You go to H4 and you find that although on H1 it had nice lovely wave 3, a quite reasonable steady pullback into Purple, but on h4, its happeend after a divergence on the H4 AO. Now consider if this setup was within a fresh cross and/or AO that was not diverging on H4, it would be HIGHER probability setup. Yet it was a beautiful setup on h1 and should have been taken.

The video in post one gives more detail about the above.

Hope it makes sense. More on this later... The sun is out and the weather is CLASS 1 CDCL... :ymcowboy: (party) (hug)

[immy]

Today Bill Collins joined Skype room. And while I had to go away to treat my almost broken shoulder Bill and Pedro had a long conversation.

This is THE BEST Chat Session I have ever seen. Thank You Bill and Pedro.

[14:03:44] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: im lookin for hunt signals as usual but im not getting my hopes up today XD
[14:04:39] Bill Collins: On Dax M1; i havent seen any cherry or seed signals since NFP? Is something wrong with my platform I wonder?
[14:07:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: no its normal
[14:07:07] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: nfp makes volatility too high
[14:07:14] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and the hunt indies filter them all
[14:07:25] Bill Collins: Thx Pedro
[14:07:40] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: i is getting back to normal now
[14:07:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: we might see some signals soon
[14:14:22] kyle.stewart59: @Bill, Immy does use GKFX. He recommends we all use it so we have the same feed
[14:14:57] Bill Collins: I am using it as well; just wanted to be sure; thx Kyle
[14:16:31] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the indicators have built in filters for low and high volatility periods
[14:16:39] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: to stay out of the riskier trades
[14:17:24] Bill Collins: thats a great Idea, I guess Steve programmed that?
[14:17:44] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: steve does program the shit out of everything XD
[14:20:17] Bill Collins: I heard some talk about AA yesterday, do you guys know what that is?
[14:20:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the hunt indies have loads of filters included, it has evolved from the older seed and cherry indies and setups/fruits etc.. with the input of the more skilled members to increase the edge, so while it may seem like theres very few signals some days it is for a reason
[14:20:43] Bill Collins: Fewer is often better
[14:20:47] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can find all that info in the forums
[14:20:52] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: AA is adams apple
[14:20:55] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: a type of fruit
[14:21:00] Bill Collins: OK; thx
[14:21:59] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it signals the end of wave 4 and catches the wave 5 from the start
[14:23:49] Bill Collins: I see we have a seed signal @ 16:20 on Daxm1; so the indy is working
[14:24:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: if you want to know more read the setup and fruit pdf , and then take a look at the advanced sections, it will help understand everything, the journals have valuable experience, etc.. read the forums, theres loads of valuable information.
[14:24:55] kyle.stewart59: Correct Bill, but not so ideal. A fair bit away from the channel
[14:25:01] Bill Collins: A work in progress; thx Pedro
[14:25:25] Bill Collins: Yes Kyle; just shows it is functioning as I just loaded it and wasnt sure
[14:25:39] kyle.stewart59: OK guys. Bed time for me. Got state champs with RC sailing on the weekend. Have a good one
[14:25:55] Bill Collins: You too
[14:26:22] kyle.stewart59: Get some good rest this weekend guys. We are going to tear the DAX up next week
[14:28:17] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: their poping up
[14:28:32] Bill Collins: We just got a seed I see
[14:29:41] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: this signals not great tho
[14:29:45] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: pulback from w3
[14:30:59] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: they might work but risky ones
[14:31:18] Bill Collins: How are you counting the waves Pedro? I note grants AO doesnt seem to do it automatically?
[14:31:29] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you dont use grants aO
[14:31:39] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: yo just need it installed for the indies to grab data
[14:31:50] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you use the normal ao
[14:31:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: or ewave
[14:32:33] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: aims wave or ewave
[14:32:38] Bill Collins: OK ; I dont have that loaded; so pull grants AO off the chart and use the reg AO; I dont think i have ewave
[14:32:51] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: use the aims wave
[14:33:04] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: v52 i think is the last
[14:33:17] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can grab it in forums on the seeds fruits etc..
[14:33:21] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: every strategy here uses it
[14:33:47] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: ewave is a special version mae by steve, you have to buy it on his webpage
[14:34:01] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it gives you numbers on the waves making it easyer
[14:34:28] Bill Collins: Is it worth buying IYO
[14:34:35] Pedro Tiago Sampaio:
[14:34:39] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: like you seehere
[14:34:57] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: well you have to understand the waves anyway, its just convenient and lazy way to count waves
[14:35:20] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: read the pdf about eliot waves
[14:35:32] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can also find videos on youtube explaining it
[14:36:01] Bill Collins: I know a little bit about Eliott wave therory; but am not good at counting
[14:36:05] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: teh waves is the basis and youll need to understand it to apply the strategies correctly
[14:36:32] Bill Collins: So maybe i should buy the Ewave
[14:38:46] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it helps but you should really lean to count the waves anyway
[14:39:01] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: without the knowledge it doesnt matter if you see what wave youron
[14:39:22] Bill Collins: OK; I note your channel has a mid line; mine doesnt?
[14:39:52] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: some ppl dont have
[14:40:10] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: doesnt really matter
[14:40:16] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can turn it on on the options
[14:41:29] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: all you need to look at the channel is if the price is inside or outside it
[14:41:34] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the direction of the trend
[14:41:38] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and the size of it
[14:42:32] Bill Collins: Right
[14:43:29] Bill Collins: Where are you getting Trend direction from? the Wave?
[14:44:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the channel direction...
[14:44:08] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: plus wave
[14:44:17] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and m5 for confirmation
[14:44:20] Bill Collins: OK; so up channel and blue wave is bull
[14:44:45] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: blue means impulse wave
[14:44:46] Bill Collins: there used to be a dotted purple line fo that?
[14:44:58] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: dark bars is a pullback
[14:45:13] Bill Collins: Right; i get that
[14:45:45] Bill Collins: i'm going to have trouble counting the waves; I need to do some reading; I'm not visualizing it well at this point
[14:46:08] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: its hard to spot the 1-2
[14:46:13] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the 3 is the easy
[14:46:19] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: u spot the 3 and look for 4-5
[14:46:36] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but best trades are spoting the 1-2 to catch the 3
[14:47:33] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: when price goes out of channel
[14:47:41] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: then retraces a bit
[14:47:47] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: thats usually the 1 -2
[14:47:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and when you grab the signals
[14:47:57] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: to get into the 3
[14:48:22] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: on the screenshot i sent early theres an example
[14:49:03] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 14:50 would be the signal.. you can clearly see the 1-2 before it and the 3 after
[14:50:08] Bill Collins: I dont see a seed or cherry there?
[14:50:15] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it was filtered
[14:50:24] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: because the 14:50 was too big
[14:50:59] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 16 pips bar
[14:51:05] Bill Collins: So about where that blue dotted line crossed the PA
[14:51:16] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: yes
[14:51:23] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: that would be the end of the 1-2
[14:51:32] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and youd get a seed or cherry into the big 3
[14:51:57] Bill Collins: It was a good one
[14:52:14] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: yes but due to nfp volatility it didnt pop
[14:52:25] Bill Collins: I get it
[14:52:58] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it would just be a break even
[14:53:25] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: because of big signal entry the take profit woul be far up
[14:53:29] Bill Collins: So you use 10pip SL and 20 TP
[14:53:35] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: so it filtered
[14:53:57] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: no
[14:54:13] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: that was the talk about the news
[14:54:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: whole different tradig
[14:54:35] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: in the hunt we use short values for quick trades
[14:55:03] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: usually 1 pip short and 2 pips long
[14:55:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: depending on broker and your spreads
[14:56:34] Bill Collins: From the initial notes i read on Hunt it said SL is always; 10pips? I must be mistaken?
[14:56:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: hum
[14:56:58] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: i dont know what notes you read
[14:57:20] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 10 points in metatrader is 1 pip..
[14:57:24] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: arent you confusing that?
[14:58:00] Bill Collins: grant did a video of it; Yes; i guess that is it I must be getting DAX price convention wrong
[14:58:36] Bill Collins: Current is 9405.8: so what is a pip?
[14:58:54] Bill Collins: .1 or 1.0
[14:58:57] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: a pip is the smallest value without the decimal
[14:59:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 1.0
[14:59:40] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: are you using atm?
[15:00:00] Bill Collins: No, I want to learn the system first
[15:00:10] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: ah then nevermind what I said
[15:00:20] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: i was talkin of atm settings
[15:00:26] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 1pip = 10 points in atm
[15:00:48] Bill Collins: So you are using it?
[15:00:59] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: yeah
[15:01:15] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: everyone does
[15:01:19] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it is great
[15:01:43] Bill Collins: I plan to pick it up soon. I live in Toronto so EST; cant trade London open manually
[15:02:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: well but atm doesnt trade automatically
[15:02:07] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you need to be at the screen
[15:02:14] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: well i does.. but i wouldnt recommend
[15:02:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: *it does
[15:02:35] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you need to filter lots of signals
[15:02:55] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: even with all the filters included you still need to do your analisys and filter alot of them
[15:03:46] Bill Collins: Maybe steve will improve it
[15:04:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the goal of atm is not to trade auto
[15:04:05] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it is not a bot
[15:04:21] Bill Collins: I got that impression
[15:04:38] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it is awesome
[15:04:44] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: if you do the entries
[15:04:49] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: then it manages the rest
[15:04:55] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: its a semi auto
[15:05:42] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it calculates the lots the stops and trails etc..
[15:05:52] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can configure it for different strategies
[15:06:39] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but it wont help if you dont know the basics to set it up
[15:07:05] Bill Collins: Obviously
[15:07:20] Bill Collins: What does steve charge for it?
[15:07:33] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: for-exe.com
[15:07:37] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: check it there
[15:07:43] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: theres some discounts for aims members
[15:07:52] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: dont remember exactly how much it was
[15:08:38] Bill Collins: Yeah; i was looking at it a week ago; and i think there was a coupon or discount box but I guess you need a code or somethign?
[15:09:04] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: if i recall theres instructions on where to find the code
[15:09:09] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: somewhere in the forums
[15:09:19] Bill Collins: Ill look around for it
[15:09:36] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: everything you need is in the forums pretty much , look around and read everything
[15:10:14] Bill Collins: Plan to. So Pedro how long have you been at this with AIMS?
[15:10:26] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: not long
[15:10:29] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: a couple months
[15:10:38] Bill Collins: Do much other trading?
[15:10:46] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: nop
[15:10:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: did before
[15:10:56] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but then found this
[15:11:05] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: and im focusin on learning the hunt now
[15:11:07] Bill Collins: You have made rapid progress
[15:11:23] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: hum
[15:11:27] Bill Collins: Do you just trade it on Dax m1
[15:11:38] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: im still new, lots to learn
[15:11:46] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: the hunt dax m1 only
[15:11:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: nothing else
[15:12:14] Bill Collins: Does it work on anythign else? I think i heard some talk about using it on Nasdaq100 ?
[15:12:37] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: it works on any instrument with good movement
[15:12:55] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: dax is one of the best
[15:12:55] Bill Collins: How many trades a week do you usually see on it?
[15:13:04] Bill Collins: Just for dax
[15:13:18] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: theres dozens of trades per day on dax
[15:13:31] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: or at least sigals
[15:13:33] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: signals
[15:13:50] Bill Collins: How many are "qualified" signals you would actually take?
[15:14:00] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: i only do 2 or 3 usually
[15:14:12] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but i only do afternoon session
[15:14:32] Bill Collins: Immy said this is good for 66% win rate? What is your experience?
[15:14:48] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you can read my journal and see my experience
[15:15:03] Bill Collins: You have a journal up? I'll have to go find it
[15:15:17] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: theres only e pages since i started it recently
[15:15:21] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: 3 pages
[15:15:29] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: you gotmy results there
[15:15:46] Bill Collins: Profitable though right?
[15:16:14] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: too soon to say but looks good
[15:16:24] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: im not trading for profit yet
[15:16:31] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: discipline is the focus
[15:17:28] Bill Collins: I have seen litterally 100's of systems and few are worth the paper they are written on. and Yes; discipline is key; if you dont stick to your plan you will be trading on your gut feelings and it will always end up bad
[15:19:57] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: well you probably have more experience than me
[15:20:19] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but from my months here its a great group that taught me alot
[15:23:26] Bill Collins: Yes; that is why I am here. Very tough in this business to connect with like minded traders who are willing to help each other and are focused on learning and trading. I bought AIMS in 2012 but never pursued it as I had SO many ohter systems I had accumulated and more every week coming to my attention. After looking at all of them 80% were garbage and scams and the others usually have various problems with them. Anyway... I came back here in Dec and saw they had opened up the Hunt and said this looks like what i am looking for so here I am.
[15:24:56] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: well i did buy other systems and came to same conclusion, most are scammers that rely on profit to lure ppl in and pay for crappy updates and stuff that look better then it is
[15:25:41] Bill Collins: Yup; so many lies; fake screenshots; it's all marketing hype; I can smell them a mile away now
[15:26:32] Bill Collins: AIMS is totally different in that regard; real traders; solid sysstem. You just have to make the commitment
[15:27:34] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: all the strategies here work fine from my experience
[15:28:12] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: but what I liked most is how they taught me patient, discipline, believing in me, creating solid habits and how important all that is to trading
[15:28:30] Greg: bye guys have a nice weekend
[15:28:37] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: cyas Greg
[15:28:43] Bill Collins: Have a good one
[15:29:01] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: this is not a get rich group
[15:29:30] Bill Collins: No exactly; you need to just work at it but integrity is not at question here
[15:29:44] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: its about improving your foundations and be a long term trader with a solid plan
[15:30:04] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: at least its my opinion =)
[15:31:47] Bill Collins: You are going to do very well with that position. Hey, I have to cut out. Real nice chatting with you Pedro..... Have a nice weekend. See you next week.
[15:31:58] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: cyas Bill
[15:32:02] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: have a good weekend

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Skype Seminar
Q&A wiht Grant and Immy
Topic: AIMS The Hunt - New Strategy and Indicators
Date: Thursday 10th of December 2016

[10/12/2015 19:11:04] Immy - AIMS: but before that Let me thank you all for coming together and let me thank Grant firstly for sharing his knowledge and wisdom. And huge thanks once again to Steve for coding his "knowledge and wisdom". thank you thank you thank you.
[10/12/2015 19:11:19] Murph (IRL): 100%
[10/12/2015 19:11:24] Murph (IRL): REALLY !
[10/12/2015 19:11:31] Immy - AIMS: Ok So Grant,
[10/12/2015 19:11:33] Spiros Sotiropoulos: DEFINATELY
[10/12/2015 19:11:33] pankaj_pandekar: (y)
[10/12/2015 19:11:34] Darren: Agreed
[10/12/2015 19:11:42] moty: (clap)
[10/12/2015 19:11:43] Stefan: Abolutely
[10/12/2015 19:11:47] Szakál Péter: Yep
[10/12/2015 19:11:48] Michael Zlabinger: (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:11:52] Ralf Sky: (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:12:06] Patcho 100: the same
[10/12/2015 19:12:11] michal: (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:12:13] Immy - AIMS: Why and when did you decide to strip down your chart off all the very USEFULL indicators that we have learned to trust over the years. Namely, AIMS Box and AIMS Gator.
[10/12/2015 19:12:16] John Ford: (bollylove)
[10/12/2015 19:12:36] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:11] Immy - AIMS:

<<< Why and when did you decide to strip down your chart off all the very USEFULL indicators that we have learned to trust over the years. Namely, AIMS Box and AIMS Gator.cos you told me too.... (cwl)
[10/12/2015 19:12:51] Immy - AIMS: the longer answer?
[10/12/2015 19:13:17] Darren: Sorry - I have to go - kids bed duties - I shall catch up with this later...
[10/12/2015 19:13:23] Immy - AIMS: so I guess, you want to throw it back at me.
[10/12/2015 19:13:32] Immy - AIMS: Ok Darren, see ya tomorrow.
[10/12/2015 19:14:49] Immy - AIMS: http://screencast.com/t/vwMFrgp5w97l
[10/12/2015 19:15:02 | Edited 19:15:28] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:11] Immy - AIMS:

<<< Why and when did you decide to strip down your chart off all the very USEFULL indicators that we have learned to trust over the years. Namely, AIMS Box and AIMS Gator.have looked at seeds since the beginning of the year to get to a strat where i could have maximum R:R... once i started my journal with your and Steves eyes we have managed to get toi what we see today...

as you know i never had the blue line of gator on any of my charts as i never used it.. the same applies here, evrything that was not used came off... so no gator, aims box etc
[10/12/2015 19:15:51] Immy - AIMS: so because you were no longer taking setup 1, where entry is at Box low/high, there was no need for box.
[10/12/2015 19:16:23] Grant Hardiman: nope, no m5 levels (fractal fib indy)
[10/12/2015 19:16:29] Immy - AIMS: and same goes for Gator. because now the filters are based on AIMS Grant AO (background indicator) and built in filters that are encoded into AIMS Seed and Cherry Alerts?
[10/12/2015 19:16:36] Grant Hardiman: gator was the hardest to give up but
[10/12/2015 19:17:21] Immy - AIMS: And I hope we are now all clear that Grant's Flow Chart, the 4 questions. all have been coded in to these indicators.
[10/12/2015 19:17:28] Grant Hardiman: with the Hunt channel (what kind of a fucking name is that btw) gator was made redundant]
[10/12/2015 19:17:49] Immy - AIMS: i had to come up with something mate.
[10/12/2015 19:17:54] Grant Hardiman: lol
[10/12/2015 19:18:28] Grant Hardiman: so now yes all the main Qs from the FC have been coded so it should make us all more decisive...
[10/12/2015 19:18:31] Immy - AIMS: The volatility and trend indicator.
[10/12/2015 19:18:44] Immy - AIMS: Do we still have to filter?
[10/12/2015 19:18:53] Grant Hardiman: yes....
[10/12/2015 19:19:19] Grant Hardiman: 1 hard coded into the indy and the filters that we have to go through as normal... TZ1 etc
[10/12/2015 19:19:50] Immy - AIMS: so basically we are TRADING off the eWave or AO or AIMS Wave , the histogram at the bottom...
[10/12/2015 19:20:35] Grant Hardiman: we are, its the road map of where we "think" price "may" be heading to next
[10/12/2015 19:21:04] Immy - AIMS: does the current setting care for 5x HTF?
[10/12/2015 19:22:42] Grant Hardiman: yes and no...

yes because a seed is still an S1 of the HTF, like a cherry is part of an apple of HTF...

no, cos the channel on the current TF now gives us both trend and volitility
[10/12/2015 19:22:49] Grant Hardiman: THAT SAID
[10/12/2015 19:23:02] Grant Hardiman: we still trade the wave movement of M% with m1 entries
[10/12/2015 19:23:07] Grant Hardiman: M5*
[10/12/2015 19:23:36] Grant Hardiman: we have just made the chart simpler
[10/12/2015 19:23:45] Immy - AIMS: so the indicators have in built mechanism to keep us in line with HTF trend?
[10/12/2015 19:24:22] Grant Hardiman: yes
[10/12/2015 19:24:48] Immy - AIMS: Ok I think that is it. from me. thank you
[10/12/2015 19:24:51] Grant Hardiman: the channel will be our green and purple in 1
[10/12/2015 19:25:00] Immy - AIMS: I see.
[10/12/2015 19:25:01] Grant Hardiman: 1 indy
[10/12/2015 19:25:23] Grant Hardiman: no problem... Next..
[10/12/2015 19:25:28] Immy - AIMS: and we use the channel values to use as filter within our indicators already.
[10/12/2015 19:25:36] Immy - AIMS: ok Guys!
[10/12/2015 19:25:55] Immy - AIMS: any questions. we will both try to answer. but direct them to Grant first.
[10/12/2015 19:26:30] Michael Zlabinger: ok, how do we organize Q&A now?
[10/12/2015 19:26:35] Immy - AIMS: btw: how hard was it to take this decision of not using box and gator?
[10/12/2015 19:26:37] Michael Zlabinger: that there is no big mess
[10/12/2015 19:26:42] Grant Hardiman: tough
[10/12/2015 19:26:54] Grant Hardiman: just ask them and i will quote them in the answer
[10/12/2015 19:27:00] Immy - AIMS: 2 questions per person. ok?
[10/12/2015 19:27:06] pankaj_pandekar: Grant..please help us understand what the channel is ?
[10/12/2015 19:27:19] pankaj_pandekar: ok
[10/12/2015 19:27:31] Immy - AIMS: wait for one question to be answered first. pls.
[10/12/2015 19:28:01] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:26] pankaj_pandekar:

<<< Grant..please help us understand what the channel is ?in what way PP.... it is basically a trend indy that will help us only trade when markets are alive and moving...
[10/12/2015 19:28:20] Immy - AIMS: agreed Grant.
[10/12/2015 19:28:32] Patcho 100: Is divergence coded in? or age of AO e.g. 26 -30 bars
[10/12/2015 19:28:58] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:28] Patcho 100:

<<< Is divergence coded in? or age of AO e.g. 26 -30 barsyes, a new high has to be made by ewaves before a signal will print
[10/12/2015 19:29:10] pankaj_pandekar: I mean how is the channel constructed ?
[10/12/2015 19:29:46] Immy - AIMS: PP! trade secret
[10/12/2015 19:29:57] pankaj_pandekar: oh... Ok
[10/12/2015 19:30:00] Michael Zlabinger: [10 December 2015 19:19] Immy - AIMS:

<<< so basically we are TRADING off the eWave or AO or AIMS Wave , the histogram at the bottom...so no AO anymore just plain price chart?
[10/12/2015 19:30:02] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:28] pankaj_pandekar:

<<< I mean how is the channel constructed ?PP, it will be an indy that will follow at the weekend, even i am not sure how it is actually coded
[10/12/2015 19:30:24] David Richard: my guess: a moving average with +2.5 atr on the top and -2.5 ATR on bottom
[10/12/2015 19:30:44] Immy - AIMS: lets focus on what we have and deal with what we don't , for later. shall we
[10/12/2015 19:30:50] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:29] Michael Zlabinger:

<<< so no AO anymore just plain price chart?its coded into tyhe signal MZ but will always stay on my chart so i can see the count
[10/12/2015 19:31:25] Immy - AIMS: we will have eWave / AO / AIMS Wave at the bottom.
[10/12/2015 19:31:27] Michael Zlabinger: to me it's important for structure as well. Ok.
[10/12/2015 19:31:32] Immy - AIMS: don't attach AIMS Grant AO to the chart.
[10/12/2015 19:31:50] Immy - AIMS: I did not say remove that.
[10/12/2015 19:32:11] Grant Hardiman: right before we go on ...
[10/12/2015 19:32:35] Grant Hardiman: that is my chart showing G AO...
[10/12/2015 19:33:39] Grant Hardiman: i do not have that on my trading chart, but you can see that every time ewaves pulls back from a higher high it prints a bar..

we will only get a cherry or seed signal when the G AO has printed a bar ...
[10/12/2015 19:33:53] Immy - AIMS: We named it Grant AO to Honour Grant! Thanks Steve... (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:34:17 | Edited 19:34:27] Immy - AIMS: GAO only prints blue and red when there is a new peak on AO.
[10/12/2015 19:34:41] Grant Hardiman: so looking at the right of the chart we can see ewvaes did not make a new high when it changed colour for 2 bars... thus GAO will not print
[10/12/2015 19:35:03] Grant Hardiman: IT WILL HOWEVER IGNORE 1 BAR CHANGES RETRACES...
[10/12/2015 19:35:32] Michael Zlabinger: I haven't got any of the signals showing up on Grant's screen shot:
[10/12/2015 19:35:35] Immy - AIMS: so it needs at least 2 bar change to consider it as a peak?
Michael Zlabinger
[10/12/2015 19:35:56] michal: i got same as michael
[10/12/2015 19:36:30] Immy - AIMS: its the same
[10/12/2015 19:36:35] michal: http://screencast.com/t/47T7E6seuS1g
[10/12/2015 19:36:54] Brige GATA-AURA: hi Grant, my chart is plain with a channel top/bottom and no indis, is that correct
[10/12/2015 19:36:59] Immy - AIMS: are you referring to green candles?
[10/12/2015 19:38:00] Michael Zlabinger: oh sorry they have same O/C :$
[10/12/2015 19:38:20] Immy - AIMS: MZ, seriously?
[10/12/2015 19:38:24] Immy - AIMS: (facepalm)
[10/12/2015 19:38:39] Immy - AIMS: those are doji bars.
[10/12/2015 19:38:59] Immy - AIMS: Grant could you please share one with London Open.
[10/12/2015 19:39:00] Michael Zlabinger: yes, sure
[10/12/2015 19:39:02] Grant Hardiman: did evryone just get a seed...
[10/12/2015 19:39:10] Grant Hardiman: 21.37
[10/12/2015 19:39:13] Szakál Péter: yes
[10/12/2015 19:39:16] michal: +
[10/12/2015 19:39:17] Murph (IRL): yes
[10/12/2015 19:39:21] Stefan: y
[10/12/2015 19:39:28] John Ford: yes
[10/12/2015 19:39:30] Ralf Sky: Looking at Grant's chart it actually prints seed/cherry at first red(dark) bar, right?
[10/12/2015 19:39:33] Immy - AIMS: yes.
[10/12/2015 19:39:35] Michael Zlabinger: yes, 2 seeds at dark
[10/12/2015 19:39:36] Murph (IRL): I'm trading it haha
[10/12/2015 19:39:44] Stefan: also 20:35
[10/12/2015 19:39:53 | Removed 19:40:02] Grant Hardiman: This message has been removed.
[10/12/2015 19:39:54] Immy - AIMS: it will print at first as long as there is new peak.
Grant Hardiman
[10/12/2015 19:40:12] Grant Hardiman: thats LO (blue lin) today
[10/12/2015 19:40:30 | Removed 19:40:45] Spiros Sotiropoulos: This message has been removed.
[10/12/2015 19:41:10] Grant Hardiman: pleae tell me everyone sees the same from LO
[10/12/2015 19:41:24] John Ford: same grant
[10/12/2015 19:42:08] Michael Zlabinger: mainly same. 11:25 pinbar didn't paint Cherry but rest is same.
[10/12/2015 19:42:08] Ralf Sky: I don't have a star/cherry at 11:24 as first dark bar.
[10/12/2015 19:42:19] michal: cherry 11.24 it didnt print me a signal
[10/12/2015 19:42:44] Grant Hardiman: but you see all the rest... ?
[10/12/2015 19:42:45] Stefan: y same
[10/12/2015 19:42:49] michal: yes
[10/12/2015 19:42:51] Ralf Sky: yes
[10/12/2015 19:42:57] Grant Hardiman: bizarre
[10/12/2015 19:43:04] Michael Zlabinger: yes.
[10/12/2015 19:43:08] Spiros Sotiropoulos: 11.26 was a seed for me and not a cherry. Other than that, same
[10/12/2015 19:43:09] Immy - AIMS: cherry 11.24 it didnt print me a signali have it.
[10/12/2015 19:43:33] Spiros Sotiropoulos: I have the same as Michael
[10/12/2015 19:43:33] Grant Hardiman: dots are seeds, stars are cherries
[10/12/2015 19:43:35 | Removed 19:44:08] Ralf Sky: This message has been removed.
[10/12/2015 19:43:55] Immy - AIMS: let me alos throw a cherry bomb....
[10/12/2015 19:44:09] Grant Hardiman: R, we wioll talk to steve and find out...
[10/12/2015 19:44:12] Grant Hardiman: for you
[10/12/2015 19:44:31] Immy - AIMS: those can be changed to whatever you like.
[10/12/2015 19:44:41] Szakál Péter: same here, no cherry at 11:24
[10/12/2015 19:44:57] Brige GATA-AURA: I have seed showing a dot, but not cherry signal
[10/12/2015 19:45:02] Immy - AIMS: The indicators have inbuilt MAX 10 points for DAX (m1 time frame) but if you change time frame it will not follow 10 pips. but rather an ATR multiple.
[10/12/2015 19:45:02] Michael Zlabinger: I know why, because Grant AO didn't paint bar
[10/12/2015 19:45:23] Grant Hardiman: right it sounds like it the GKFX CFD account that isnt showing whereas the SB is...
[10/12/2015 19:45:41] michal: i got SB
[10/12/2015 19:45:55] Grant Hardiman: then thats me out of ideas...
[10/12/2015 19:45:56] michal: and didnt show if helps
[10/12/2015 19:46:10] Grant Hardiman: will have to speak to the coding guru...
[10/12/2015 19:46:17] Brige GATA-AURA: have sb demo - but not showing
[10/12/2015 19:46:25] Szakál Péter: same
[10/12/2015 19:48:06] Michael Zlabinger: may I drop a note that my chart from YD looks very different from what Immy has published earlier:
[10/12/2015 19:48:08] Immy - AIMS: so all focus will be on eWave or AO or AIMS Wave
Michael Zlabinger
[10/12/2015 19:48:41] Michael Zlabinger: http://screencast.com/t/vwMFrgp5w97l
[10/12/2015 19:49:43] Szakál Péter: what are the settings for the D1 charts?
[10/12/2015 19:49:46] Immy - AIMS: aha, i think I must have added the wrong Grant AO!
[10/12/2015 19:50:08] Grant Hardiman: you ucking unt
[10/12/2015 19:50:16] Grant Hardiman: (facepalm)
[10/12/2015 19:50:18] Szakál Péter: oh..
[10/12/2015 19:50:23] Immy - AIMS: looks like it. let me check again.
[10/12/2015 19:50:23] David Richard: lol
[10/12/2015 19:51:44] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: i have the same seeds as Grant, missing two cherries
[10/12/2015 19:51:56] John Ford: Grant do we still take into account retracement size before entry
[10/12/2015 19:52:04] Grant Hardiman: yes J...
[10/12/2015 19:52:11] Immy - AIMS: ok download again
[10/12/2015 19:52:17] John Ford: cheers pal
[10/12/2015 19:52:22] Immy - AIMS: just over write Grant AO with this one.
[10/12/2015 19:52:52] Immy - AIMS: zip file updated
[10/12/2015 19:53:27] Grant Hardiman: if 6/7 ewaves bars makes the new high i will take a 1 bar change, if its more then i generally wait for a few bars of colour change 9if that makes sense)
[10/12/2015 19:53:33] Immy - AIMS: Sorry guys! I got steve to finalise these only 2 hrs before this session. Thank God steve was available before he knocked out.
[10/12/2015 19:55:12] Spiros Sotiropoulos: 11.24 cherry is there now
[10/12/2015 19:55:18] Immy - AIMS: 11.24 should be back
[10/12/2015 19:55:23] Immy - AIMS: aha, you beat me to it.
[10/12/2015 19:55:25] Grant Hardiman: (party)
[10/12/2015 19:55:29] Immy - AIMS: yeah!!!
[10/12/2015 19:55:35] Immy - AIMS: nice. MZ/
[10/12/2015 19:56:04] Michael Zlabinger: (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:56:26] Immy - AIMS: nice... so that's it for tonight... we will now look at it in the am.
[10/12/2015 19:56:38] Immy - AIMS: I'm off but if Gman wants to say, you guys can carry on.
[10/12/2015 19:56:48] moty: I already paid for the gator, so maybe I can leave it on the chart?
[10/12/2015 19:57:17] pankaj_pandekar: 11:24 is there for me now
[10/12/2015 19:57:21] Grant Hardiman: [10 December 2015 19:56] Immy - AIMS:

<<< I'm off but if Gman wants to say, you guys can carry on.(cwl) there is a beer and curry with my name on it...
[10/12/2015 19:57:40] Grant Hardiman: will see you all in the am... thanks for showing up fellas
[10/12/2015 19:57:51] Spiros Sotiropoulos: Buy/sell buffers etc remain the same, right?
[10/12/2015 19:57:53] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: alright
[10/12/2015 19:57:54] Pedro Tiago Sampaio: gnight all
[10/12/2015 19:57:56] michal: thank You Immy and Grant
[10/12/2015 19:58:20] michal: great WORK and Steve ofcourse
[10/12/2015 19:58:22] David Richard: thanks everyone who worked/helped with these new indicators
[10/12/2015 19:58:23] Spiros Sotiropoulos: Bye Immy and Grant. A big thank you for your efforts.
[10/12/2015 19:58:24] Grant Hardiman: yes SS, no change to the POs, SLs or exits
[10/12/2015 19:58:34] tracker-13: Thanks Immy and Grant. Enjoy whats left of your evening.
[10/12/2015 19:58:40] David Richard: looking forward to trading with them tomorrow
[10/12/2015 19:58:43] moty: Thanks guys, GN
[10/12/2015 19:58:46] Stefan: Many thanks Immy and Grant - it's great )
[10/12/2015 19:58:47] Spiros Sotiropoulos: And, of course, Steve for making your ideas a reality.
[10/12/2015 19:58:48] Immy - AIMS: (bow)
[10/12/2015 19:58:54] Spiros Sotiropoulos: Goodnight everyone.

[naqviimran]

Hi Immy - This is the error that I get - "Expired Copy" - although I have installed license for 2016. Moreover, the channels do not show up.

[immy]

Hi Immy - This is the error that I get - "Expired Copy" - although I have installed license for 2016. Moreover, the channels do not show up.

We don't use the channel anymore. It was a beta indicator that served its purpose in Stage 1. We will now follow the stages as described in the earlier post of this thread/topic.

[immy]

Can I take Hunt Signals on H1 without H4 Confirmation?

YOU DONT need Wave confirmation of H4 for your Seed/Cherry Signals on H1 per se, but doing so will increase the probability of it further. Otherwise, its perfectly fine to trade Seed/Cherry on H1 on its own as long as they tick all the rules. However, To Trade the HIGHEST probability Setup 1 entries and Apples, you MUST ensure that H4 has The HUNT Setup. Got it?